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a***@arcor.de
2018-06-13 22:01:20 UTC
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Hi Peter,

I have imported an Anki deck of cards. After the import the cards in the set had four sides (something, audio, translation, sentence). Since on the question side has only been the audio, I changed the position of the audio. Well, now the cards don't have a card type in "show cards from these card types". They are displayed, even though no card type has been activated in "show cards from these card types". When I click on "change card type" "Front-to-back only" is active.
If I try to convert the the cards to twosided cards I get to choose four items for front and back side. In the cards browser the cards look like "front to back only" cards. Weird.
I can't edit the card type either, there is no card type displayed in "Manage card types".

I might have changed the card type to "Front to back - Back to front " card type, after changing the position of the multisided cards contents. I am not sure.

Good night!

Abakus
Hi, I'm still having problems with synch. I input cards on my PC sync and then learn on my tablet. Each time I sync the app brings up the first cards I input and have learned not the new ones. What am I doing wrong?
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2018-06-13 22:45:32 UTC
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Hi Peter,

another bug.

I have imported some other Anki cards. Now, right after the import I get an unknown field {{FRONTSIDE}} or something similar in front template. The field should be called {{freq rank}}.

I've been talking about those two sets:

https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/1290591096

Good night!

Abakus
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Hi Peter,
I have imported an Anki deck of cards. After the import the cards in the set had four sides (something, audio, translation, sentence). Since on the question side has only been the audio, I changed the position of the audio. Well, now the cards don't have a card type in "show cards from these card types". They are displayed, even though no card type has been activated in "show cards from these card types". When I click on "change card type" "Front-to-back only" is active.
If I try to convert the the cards to twosided cards I get to choose four items for front and back side. In the cards browser the cards look like "front to back only" cards. Weird.
I can't edit the card type either, there is no card type displayed in "Manage card types".
I might have changed the card type to "Front to back - Back to front " card type, after changing the position of the multisided cards contents. I am not sure.
Good night!
Abakus
Hi, I'm still having problems with synch. I input cards on my PC sync and then learn on my tablet. Each time I sync the app brings up the first cards I input and have learned not the new ones. What am I doing wrong?
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Peter Bienstman
2018-06-14 12:05:52 UTC
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Hi,

I tried to import the deck you linked below with my current development version on an empty database, and I don't see any problems.

Could you try with this version?

https://www.dropbox.com/s/1u77qfyuj4esr0t/mnemosyne-2.6.1-pre-setup.exe?dl=0

Cheers,

Peter

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Subject: Re: [mnemosyne-proj-users] Card type of multisided cards disappeared

Hi Peter,

another bug.

I have imported some other Anki cards. Now, right after the import I get an unknown field {{FRONTSIDE}} or something similar in front template. The field should be called {{freq rank}}.

I've been talking about those two sets:

https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/1290591096

Good night!

Abakus
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Hi Peter,
I have imported an Anki deck of cards. After the import the cards in the set had four sides (something, audio, translation, sentence). Since on the question side has only been the audio, I changed the position of the audio. Well, now the cards don't have a card type in "show cards from these card types". They are displayed, even though no card type has been activated in "show cards from these card types". When I click on "change card type" "Front-to-back only" is active.
If I try to convert the the cards to twosided cards I get to choose four items for front and back side. In the cards browser the cards look like "front to back only" cards. Weird.
I can't edit the card type either, there is no card type displayed in "Manage card types".
I might have changed the card type to "Front to back - Back to front " card type, after changing the position of the multisided cards contents. I am not sure.
Good night!
Abakus
Hi, I'm still having problems with synch. I input cards on my PC sync and then learn on my tablet. Each time I sync the app brings up the first cards I input and have learned not the new ones. What am I doing wrong?
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2018-07-02 21:04:25 UTC
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Hello Peter,

I have done, what you have asked me to do. I started with an empty database.

I could not reproduce the error yet. There might be a problem in
converting the m-sided cards to two-sided cards though. They seem to be
already present (screenshots attached).

By the way in my real database (not the test database above; Screenshots
attached):

- When I want to edit the cards, they are displayed empty: The answer
and the question textbox is empty. When I do repetitions, they are
displayed correctly like all the other cards.

- Even, if there is no card type selected, all those imported/converted
cards are still visible in the cards browser.

- The cards seem to be one-sided cards?!! They should be two-sided cards
(I might have missclicked.).

Good night!

Abakus
Post by Peter Bienstman
Hi,
I tried to import the deck you linked below with my current
development version on an empty database, and I don't see any problems.
Post by Peter Bienstman
Could you try with this version?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/1u77qfyuj4esr0t/mnemosyne-2.6.1-pre-setup.exe?dl=0
Post by Peter Bienstman
Cheers,
Peter
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Sent: 14 June 2018 00:46
Subject: Re: [mnemosyne-proj-users] Card type of multisided cards disappeared
Hi Peter,
another bug.
I have imported some other Anki cards. Now, right after the import I
get an unknown field {{FRONTSIDE}} or something similar in front
template. The field should be called {{freq rank}}.
Post by Peter Bienstman
https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/1290591096
Good night!
Abakus
Post by a***@arcor.de
Hi Peter,
I have imported an Anki deck of cards. After the import the cards
in the set had four sides (something, audio, translation, sentence).
Since on the question side has only been the audio, I changed the
position of the audio. Well, now the cards don't have a card type in
"show cards from these card types". They are displayed, even though no
card type has been activated in "show cards from these card types". When
I click on "change card type" "Front-to-back only" is active.
Post by Peter Bienstman
Post by a***@arcor.de
If I try to convert the the cards to twosided cards I get to choose
four items for front and back side. In the cards browser the cards look
like "front to back only" cards. Weird.
Post by Peter Bienstman
Post by a***@arcor.de
I can't edit the card type either, there is no card type displayed in "Manage card types".
I might have changed the card type to "Front to back - Back to
front " card type, after changing the position of the multisided cards
contents. I am not sure.
Post by Peter Bienstman
Post by a***@arcor.de
Good night!
Abakus
Hi, I'm still having problems with synch. I input cards on my PC
sync and then learn on my tablet. Each time I sync the app brings up the
first cards I input and have learned not the new ones. What am I doing
wrong?
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Peter Bienstman
2018-07-17 13:09:51 UTC
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Hi,

(Sorry for the late reply, I was travelling)
- When I want to edit the cards, they are displayed empty: The answer and the question textbox is empty. When I do repetitions, they are displayed correctly like all the other cards.
Do you remember exactly how these cards were created? I see from your database that they were created in 2016, and since then, there have been quite some bugfixes. If you can recreate this on an empty database with the current version of Mnemosyne, I have something concrete to look into. Without further info, it's going to be almost impossible to figure out what was going on, I'm afraid...

Cheers,

Peter
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Hi Peter,

there is a difference in between the number of cards in the statistics
window and the "browse cards" window.

I have tagged all the cards in the tag "Turkish" with another tag
"Turkish2". There is screenshot below, which shows that they both
contain the same number of cards (20360).

If you take a look at the statistics window, there is a difference in
the number of cards. The tag "Turkish2" still has the same number of
cards as displayed in the "Browse cards" window. The tag "Turkish" seems
to have 26844 cards in the statistics window.

That is a difference of 6484 cards.

Why is there this difference?

I still think, that it is connected to the Anki import and/or the
conversion from one card type to another. Or it might be connected to
double tagging of cards (e.g.: "Turkish, Turkish::AnotherTag").

Take a look at the screenshots below.

Cheers,

Abakus

The card browser says that the number of 20360 cards is correct.

20360 cards

26844 cards



1076 cards with extra tag


After deleting the "_easiest to hardest" tag:

Still the same number of cards in card browser.


10454




16938

Difference: 6484

--------------Don't read, if you don't want to dig
deeper---------------------------
Some more numbers about the Anki cards, I have imported quite a few
times now:
Easiest to hardest set (basics): 5007 cards -> Anki set 1
Easiest to hardest set (advanced): 7000 cards -> Anki set 2

Easiest to hardest:Basic: 9906 cards

1076 cards with extra tag

--------------Don't read, if you don't want to dig
deeper---------------------------
Post by a***@arcor.de
Hello Peter,
I have done, what you have asked me to do. I started with an empty database.
I could not reproduce the error yet. There might be a problem in
converting the m-sided cards to two-sided cards though. They seem to
be already present (screenshots attached).
By the way in my real database (not the test database above;
- When I want to edit the cards, they are displayed empty: The answer
and the question textbox is empty. When I do repetitions, they are
displayed correctly like all the other cards.
- Even, if there is no card type selected, all those
imported/converted cards are still visible in the cards browser.
- The cards seem to be one-sided cards?!! They should be two-sided
cards (I might have missclicked.).
Good night!
Abakus
Post by Peter Bienstman
Hi,
I tried to import the deck you linked below with my current
development version on an empty database, and I don't see any problems.
Post by Peter Bienstman
Could you try with this version?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/1u77qfyuj4esr0t/mnemosyne-2.6.1-pre-setup.exe?dl=0
Post by Peter Bienstman
Cheers,
Peter
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Post by Peter Bienstman
Hi Peter,
another bug.
I have imported some other Anki cards. Now, right after the import I
get an unknown field {{FRONTSIDE}} or something similar in front
template. The field should be called {{freq rank}}.
Post by Peter Bienstman
https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/1290591096
Good night!
Abakus
Post by a***@arcor.de
Hi Peter,
I have imported an Anki deck of cards. After the import the cards
in the set had four sides (something, audio, translation, sentence).
Since on the question side has only been the audio, I changed the
position of the audio. Well, now the cards don't have a card type in
"show cards from these card types". They are displayed, even though no
card type has been activated in "show cards from these card types".
When I click on "change card type" "Front-to-back only" is active.
Post by Peter Bienstman
Post by a***@arcor.de
If I try to convert the the cards to twosided cards I get to
choose four items for front and back side. In the cards browser the
cards look like "front to back only" cards. Weird.
Post by Peter Bienstman
Post by a***@arcor.de
I can't edit the card type either, there is no card type displayed
in "Manage card types".
Post by Peter Bienstman
Post by a***@arcor.de
I might have changed the card type to "Front to back - Back to
front " card type, after changing the position of the multisided cards
contents. I am not sure.
Post by Peter Bienstman
Post by a***@arcor.de
Good night!
Abakus
Hi, I'm still having problems with synch. I input cards on my PC
sync and then learn on my tablet. Each time I sync the app brings up
the first cards I input and have learned not the new ones. What am I
doing wrong?
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Hi,

This is because your cards have both "Turkish” and “Turkish::AnotherTag", which confuses the system. If your card has “Turkish::AnotherTag”, it will automatically be part of the “Turkish” family, and 2.6.1 will not allow you anymore to explicitly add the “Turkish” tag again. So, feel free to also delete that “Turkish” tag in your current database. Given that you can now look at the statistics of parent tags, there’s no reason anymore for a card to have a separate “Turkish” tag at the same time as a “Turkish::AnotherTag”.

Cheers,

Peter

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Subject: Re: [mnemosyne-proj-users] Card type of multisided cards disappeared


Hi Peter,

there is a difference in between the number of cards in the statistics window and the "browse cards" window.

I have tagged all the cards in the tag "Turkish" with another tag "Turkish2". There is screenshot below, which shows that they both contain the same number of cards (20360).

If you take a look at the statistics window, there is a difference in the number of cards. The tag "Turkish2" still has the same number of cards as displayed in the "Browse cards" window. The tag "Turkish" seems to have 26844 cards in the statistics window.
That is a difference of 6484 cards.

Why is there this difference?

I still think, that it is connected to the Anki import and/or the conversion from one card type to another. Or it might be connected to double tagging of cards (e.g.: "Turkish, Turkish::AnotherTag").

Take a look at the screenshots below.

Cheers,

Abakus

The card browser says that the number of 20360 cards is correct.
[cid:***@01D42A42.5EEC2750]

[cid:***@01D42A42.5EEC2750]

20360 cards

[cid:***@01D42A42.5EEC2750]

26844 cards

[cid:***@01D42A42.5EEC2750]
1076 cards with extra tag


After deleting the "_easiest to hardest" tag:
[cid:***@01D42A42.5EEC2750]
Still the same number of cards in card browser.

[cid:***@01D42A42.5EEC2750]
10454


[cid:***@01D42A42.5EEC2750]

16938

Difference: 6484

--------------Don't read, if you don't want to dig deeper---------------------------
Some more numbers about the Anki cards, I have imported quite a few times now:
Easiest to hardest set (basics): 5007 cards -> Anki set 1
Easiest to hardest set (advanced): 7000 cards -> Anki set 2

Easiest to hardest:Basic: 9906 cards

1076 cards with extra tag

--------------Don't read, if you don't want to dig deeper---------------------------
Am 02.07.2018 um 23:04 schrieb ***@arcor.de<mailto:***@arcor.de>:
Hello Peter,

I have done, what you have asked me to do. I started with an empty database.

I could not reproduce the error yet. There might be a problem in converting the m-sided cards to two-sided cards though. They seem to be already present (screenshots attached).

By the way in my real database (not the test database above; Screenshots attached):

- When I want to edit the cards, they are displayed empty: The answer and the question textbox is empty. When I do repetitions, they are displayed correctly like all the other cards.

- Even, if there is no card type selected, all those imported/converted cards are still visible in the cards browser.

- The cards seem to be one-sided cards?!! They should be two-sided cards (I might have missclicked.).

Good night!

Abakus
Post by Peter Bienstman
Hi,
I tried to import the deck you linked below with my current development version on an empty database, and I don't see any problems.
Could you try with this version?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/1u77qfyuj4esr0t/mnemosyne-2.6.1-pre-setup.exe?dl=0
Cheers,
Peter
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Subject: Re: [mnemosyne-proj-users] Card type of multisided cards disappeared
Hi Peter,
another bug.
I have imported some other Anki cards. Now, right after the import I get an unknown field {{FRONTSIDE}} or something similar in front template. The field should be called {{freq rank}}.
https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/1290591096
Good night!
Abakus
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Hi Peter,
I have imported an Anki deck of cards. After the import the cards in the set had four sides (something, audio, translation, sentence). Since on the question side has only been the audio, I changed the position of the audio. Well, now the cards don't have a card type in "show cards from these card types". They are displayed, even though no card type has been activated in "show cards from these card types". When I click on "change card type" "Front-to-back only" is active.
If I try to convert the the cards to twosided cards I get to choose four items for front and back side. In the cards browser the cards look like "front to back only" cards. Weird.
I can't edit the card type either, there is no card type displayed in "Manage card types".
I might have changed the card type to "Front to back - Back to front " card type, after changing the position of the multisided cards contents. I am not sure.
Good night!
Abakus
Hi, I'm still having problems with synch. I input cards on my PC sync and then learn on my tablet. Each time I sync the app brings up the first cards I input and have learned not the new ones. What am I doing wrong?
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Peter Bienstman
2018-06-14 07:03:23 UTC
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Hi,

For your first bug, can you tell me which Anki deck you imported and what exactly you changed in the card type?

Note that editing Anki card types in such a way that it changes the number of sister cards is not yet supported. Normally, there should be a check to prevent you from doing that, but perhaps the check did not trigger here.

Cheers,

Peter

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Subject: [mnemosyne-proj-users] Card type of multisided cards disappeared

Hi Peter,

I have imported an Anki deck of cards. After the import the cards in the set had four sides (something, audio, translation, sentence). Since on the question side has only been the audio, I changed the position of the audio. Well, now the cards don't have a card type in "show cards from these card types". They are displayed, even though no card type has been activated in "show cards from these card types". When I click on "change card type" "Front-to-back only" is active.
If I try to convert the the cards to twosided cards I get to choose four items for front and back side. In the cards browser the cards look like "front to back only" cards. Weird.
I can't edit the card type either, there is no card type displayed in "Manage card types".

I might have changed the card type to "Front to back - Back to front " card type, after changing the position of the multisided cards contents. I am not sure.

Good night!

Abakus
Hi, I'm still having problems with synch. I input cards on my PC sync and then learn on my tablet. Each time I sync the app brings up the first cards I input and have learned not the new ones. What am I doing wrong?
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2018-08-01 21:38:14 UTC
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Hi Peter,

I had imported those two sets.

https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/1290591096

https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/1443197328

There has been a check, at least I got a hint, that I could not do that.

Good night!

Cheers,

Abakus
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Hi,
For your first bug, can you tell me which Anki deck you imported and what exactly you changed in the card type?
Note that editing Anki card types in such a way that it changes the number of sister cards is not yet supported. Normally, there should be a check to prevent you from doing that, but perhaps the check did not trigger here.
Cheers,
Peter
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Subject: [mnemosyne-proj-users] Card type of multisided cards disappeared
Hi Peter,
I have imported an Anki deck of cards. After the import the cards in the set had four sides (something, audio, translation, sentence). Since on the question side has only been the audio, I changed the position of the audio. Well, now the cards don't have a card type in "show cards from these card types". They are displayed, even though no card type has been activated in "show cards from these card types". When I click on "change card type" "Front-to-back only" is active.
If I try to convert the the cards to twosided cards I get to choose four items for front and back side. In the cards browser the cards look like "front to back only" cards. Weird.
I can't edit the card type either, there is no card type displayed in "Manage card types".
I might have changed the card type to "Front to back - Back to front " card type, after changing the position of the multisided cards contents. I am not sure.
Good night!
Abakus
Hi, I'm still having problems with synch. I input cards on my PC sync and then learn on my tablet. Each time I sync the app brings up the first cards I input and have learned not the new ones. What am I doing wrong?
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2018-08-02 07:23:35 UTC
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Hi,

I've imported this database, tried to make some changes to the card type, but all seems well. No warning message, no strange behaviour.

Unless you can replicate the exact steps of what you did, I'm afraid this as much as I can do at the moment...

Cheers,

Peter

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Subject: Re: [mnemosyne-proj-users] Card type of multisided cards disappeared

Hi Peter,

I had imported those two sets.

https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/1290591096

https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/1443197328

There has been a check, at least I got a hint, that I could not do that.

Good night!

Cheers,

Abakus
Post by Peter Bienstman
Hi,
For your first bug, can you tell me which Anki deck you imported and what exactly you changed in the card type?
Note that editing Anki card types in such a way that it changes the number of sister cards is not yet supported. Normally, there should be a check to prevent you from doing that, but perhaps the check did not trigger here.
Cheers,
Peter
-----Original Message-----
Sent: 14 June 2018 00:01
Subject: [mnemosyne-proj-users] Card type of multisided cards disappeared
Hi Peter,
I have imported an Anki deck of cards. After the import the cards in the set had four sides (something, audio, translation, sentence). Since on the question side has only been the audio, I changed the position of the audio. Well, now the cards don't have a card type in "show cards from these card types". They are displayed, even though no card type has been activated in "show cards from these card types". When I click on "change card type" "Front-to-back only" is active.
If I try to convert the the cards to twosided cards I get to choose four items for front and back side. In the cards browser the cards look like "front to back only" cards. Weird.
I can't edit the card type either, there is no card type displayed in "Manage card types".
I might have changed the card type to "Front to back - Back to front " card type, after changing the position of the multisided cards contents. I am not sure.
Good night!
Abakus
Hi, I'm still having problems with synch. I input cards on my PC sync and then learn on my tablet. Each time I sync the app brings up the first cards I input and have learned not the new ones. What am I doing wrong?
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